[midPoint] - Manual tasks notifications

Fri Aug 19 21:11:22 CEST 2016

Rodrigo, 

use of workflows in midPoint is currently limited to approving requested changes. So, today there's no way of starting a workflow that would present a user a work item like "hey you, please do this and then click 'Done'". We plan to implement a "manual provisioning" but it requires a nontrivial amount of effort, see https://jira.evolveum.com/browse/MID-2457 . 

But maybe there's a hack possible. Workflows can be used to approve a change. For example, midPoint is able to approve a role assignment addition (out of the box). Or an attribute change (with some custom coding). 

If I understand your situation correctly, maybe you could do it like this: 

    1. You have a resource X that requires manual intervention by an administrator in order to assign role X1 to an account on this resource. 
    2. So, you can create a midPoint role RoleX1, with approver defined to be the resource administrator. 
    3. If someone assigns RoleX1 to a midPoint user, an approval workflow process is started, notifying the resource administrator that he has to "approve" assignment of RoleX1 to midPoint user. 
    4. At this point, he knows he has to manually assign role X1 on X to user's account. 
    5. So he does it, and marks the assignment as "Approved". 
    6. The assignment of RoleX1 is then added to the user, so he knows that everything is done (in particular that the role X1 on resource X was added to him). 

Does this make sense to you? 

Best regards, 
Pavol 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Rodrigo Yanis" <ryanis at identicum.com> 
To: "midPoint General Discussion" <midpoint at lists.evolveum.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:48:20 PM 
Subject: Re: [midPoint] - Manual tasks notifications 

Bringing this up again - Do you know of a way for Midpoint to, aside from sending that notification upon an attribute change, to also trigger an internal Workflow that would allow us to keep track of the manual workload? In this scenario, the user gets the notification for the manual task, on parallel, a workflow is triggered to trace the start of a manual task, and would be manually updated by the user throughout the change process. 

Is this "Workflow" idea somewhat plausible? 

Thanks a lot. 

Rodrigo Yanis. 
Identicum S.A. 
Jorge Newbery 3226 
Tel: +54 (11) 4824-9971 
ryanis at identicum.com 
www.identicum.com 

2016-08-19 15:32 GMT-03:00 Rodrigo Yanis < ryanis at identicum.com > : 

Excellent. We'll surely try this out. 

Thanks guys. 

Rodrigo Yanis. 
Identicum S.A. 
Jorge Newbery 3226 
Tel: +54 (11) 4824-9971 
ryanis at identicum.com 
www.identicum.com 

2016-08-19 15:29 GMT-03:00 Jason Everling < jeverling at bshp.edu > : 

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I can say that the workaround works quite well! Have been using it for almost a year now in production without issue and without having any "missed" notifications not going out. 

Thanks Pavol for adding that functionality sometime ago as it has proved invaluable for us! 

JASON 

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Pavol Mederly < pavol.mederly at evolveum.com > wrote: 

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Hello Rodrigo, 

please see https://jira.evolveum.com/browse/MID-2237 for a discussion on this requirement. Although it is not implemented yet, there is a simple workaround described there. It is based on using event.isRelatedToItem method. 

Best regards, 
Pavol 

From: "Rodrigo Yanis" < ryanis at identicum.com > 
To: midpoint at lists.evolveum.com 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 7:20:11 PM 
Subject: [midPoint] - Manual tasks notifications 

Hello everyone, 

We have the need to push a notification only when a particular attribute is changed in a user in midPoint. This attribute would be linked to a set of roles that the user would inherit in midPoint only, hence the need to inform a sysadmin to perform a manual role redefinition in connected applications. 

Is it possible to trigger a notification like this? Should this be done in the context of a midPoint resource? 

Thank you in advance! 

Rodrigo Yanis. 
Identicum S.A. 
Jorge Newbery 3226 
Tel: +54 (11) 4824-9971 
ryanis at identicum.com 
www.identicum.com 

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