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I also need official clarification from Evolveum on this. Our reading of this seems to indicate that you can only run in production (a non-H2 database) if you have an active subscription.
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And if i may add one more question to the list then<br>
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What are the effects of disabling this feature in the code - licensing/legal/other/none?</div>
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<font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>midPoint <midpoint-bounces@lists.evolveum.com> on behalf of Rhian Resnick via midPoint <midpoint@lists.evolveum.com><br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [midPoint] Midpoint 4.8.1: Disabled Clustering for non-subscribers</font>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Hey there,</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">First of all, I apologize if my question ought to be posted elsewhere. In that case please tell me where.</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I just saw that Midpoint 4.8.1 was released<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: "Apple Color Emoji";">🎉</span><br>
However, reading the changelog left me a bit confused about why the additional check to detect if a user is running in a production-like environment was added and why the decision was made to disable clustering in instances without a subscription?<br>
Adding this just in case: This mail is not supposed to be a rant about the change being bad or anything, I just want to understand the reasons behind it and what to expect in the future.</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">So my questions:</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Is there a specific reason why these changes were made? I can understand that the generic repos were disabled since they are supposed to be deprecated, but why was clustering disabled in a non-subscribed instance?</span></li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">I queried the blog, the wiki and the jira tickets but apart from the release notes and the commit log, I could not find any further information on that change, especially not on the wiki pages that explain how to set up a HA instance
of MidPoint. Apart from asking in this mailing list, is there a better place?</span></li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Why was that change done inside a Maintenance release rather than a minor/major release? This change is not backwards compatible for non-subscribed instances.</span></li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Are there going to be more features that are disabled inside a non-subscribed instance? Will there be something a "core" midpoint that can be run in production even without a subscription and additional features that require a
subscription?<br>
Will there be an extra subscription model for people that want to use these features but don't want/need a support subscription?<br>
If so, does this align well with the principles outlined in the wiki Page on Openness and the page explaining the Dual Licensing?<br>
<a href="https://docs.evolveum.com/midpoint/introduction/openness/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://docs.evolveum.com/midpoint/introduction/openness/</a><br>
<a href="https://docs.evolveum.com/community/dual-licensing/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://docs.evolveum.com/community/dual-licensing/</a></span></li></ol>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Best regards and stay awesome,<br>
Timo</div>
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">midPoint@lists.evolveum.com</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">https://lists.evolveum.com/mailman/listinfo/midpoint</span></div>
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