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<p>You can still use PostgreSQL in production, as long as you don't
use the (legacy) "generic" SQL adapter but instead use the
"native" PostgreSQL implementation (available and recommended to
use since MP 4.4).<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.evolveum.com/midpoint/reference/support-4.8/repository/native-postgresql/usage/">https://docs.evolveum.com/midpoint/reference/support-4.8/repository/native-postgresql/usage/</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.evolveum.com/midpoint/reference/support-4.8/repository/generic/implementation/">https://docs.evolveum.com/midpoint/reference/support-4.8/repository/generic/implementation/</a></p>
<p>At least that's my take on the release message and when skimming
through the changes in git:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Evolveum/midpoint/commit/e070fff19191005c47df3e5c49f7130783954bbc">https://github.com/Evolveum/midpoint/commit/e070fff19191005c47df3e5c49f7130783954bbc</a></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31.01.24 19:06, Graham Ballantyne
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I also need official clarification from Evolveum on this. Our
reading of this seems to indicate that you can only run in
production (a non-H2 database) if you have an active subscription.
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<div>On Jan 31, 2024, at 08:03, Arnošt Starosta via midPoint
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And if i may add one more question to the list then<br>
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What are the effects of disabling this feature in the
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">First
of all, I apologize if my question ought to be
posted elsewhere. In that case please tell me
where.</div>
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just saw that Midpoint 4.8.1 was released<span
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However, reading the changelog left me a bit
confused about why the additional check to
detect if a user is running in a production-like
environment was added and why the decision was
made to disable clustering in instances without
a subscription?<br>
Adding this just in case: This mail is not
supposed to be a rant about the change being bad
or anything, I just want to understand the
reasons behind it and what to expect in the
future.</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">So
my questions:</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Is there a
specific reason why these changes were made?
I can understand that the generic repos were
disabled since they are supposed to be
deprecated, but why was clustering disabled
in a non-subscribed instance?</span></li>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;">I queried the
blog, the wiki and the jira tickets but
apart from the release notes and the commit
log, I could not find any further
information on that change, especially not
on the wiki pages that explain how to set up
a HA instance of MidPoint. Apart from asking
in this mailing list, is there a better
place?</span></li>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Why was that
change done inside a Maintenance release
rather than a minor/major release? This
change is not backwards compatible for
non-subscribed instances.</span></li>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Are there going
to be more features that are disabled inside
a non-subscribed instance? Will there be
something a "core" midpoint that can be run
in production even without a subscription
and additional features that require a
subscription?<br>
Will there be an extra subscription model
for people that want to use these features
but don't want/need a support subscription?<br>
If so, does this align well with the
principles outlined in the wiki Page on
Openness and the page explaining the Dual
Licensing?<br>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Best
regards and stay awesome,<br>
Timo</div>
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