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<p>Hello Stéphane,</p>
<p>I would consider formulating the rule like this: "It is illegal
to have a role B and not have role A (at the same time)" -
forgetting about the assignment-oriented, transition-related
"assignment" constraint, but simply using two object-oriented,
state-related ones: hasAssignment, hasNoAssignment.<br>
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Pavol Mederly
Software developer
evolveum.com</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/10/2022 17:08, Delcourt Stéphane
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Pavol,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks for all your
suggestions, I did not knew about the third one and give it
a try.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">IT helps me to
understand that my policy constraint did not apply user
having assignment to role A but role B having assignment to
role A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I now understand the
meaning of “evaluated on” column in the wiki sorry about
that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Then I’m back at the
beginning and my main goal is to achieve the opposite of
exclusion constraint.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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Informaticien – Gestionnaire système - Développeur</span><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pavol Mederly via midPoint<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 12 October 2022 12:34<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:midpoint@lists.evolveum.com">midpoint@lists.evolveum.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pavol Mederly <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mederly@evolveum.com"><mederly@evolveum.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [midPoint] hasNoAssignment policy
constraint<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Hello, Stéphane,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">just a few general comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">I would search the midPoint sources for
<hasNoAssignment> string. We try to do the
development seriously, so every feature should have (at
least) one test for it.
</span>This one is no exception.<o:p></o:p></li>
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<span lang="EN-US">I would search the docs.evolveum.com for
"hasNoAssignment". Here the situation is a bit worse. The
feature is not quite finished - it was sponsored to some
extent; but additional resources are needed to document it
properly. However, this work-in-progress document could
help: </span><a
href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.evolveum.com%2Fmidpoint%2Fdevel%2Fdesign%2Fpolicy-constraints%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cstephane.delcourt%40ulb.be%7Cd67313fa622d4cb3d66b08daac3d4d2d%7C30a5145e75bd4212bb028ff9c0ea4ae9%7C0%7C0%7C638011676533015639%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=G2WKlpFoj1cbg%2BCV5RdYhI288qgWSL1P5G1yLGx%2BqMQ%3D&reserved=0"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span lang="EN-US">https://docs.evolveum.com/midpoint/devel/design/policy-constraints/</span></a><span
lang="EN-US">.
</span>(The formatting problems are due to wiki migration.)<o:p></o:p></li>
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<span lang="EN-US">As for debugging, policy constraints do
not have "<tracing>" flag nor the comprehensive
troubleshooting methodology (as mappings do). So I use the
(experimental)
</span><a
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moz-do-not-send="true"><span lang="EN-US">troubleshooting
with traces</span></a><span lang="EN-US"> to diagnose
issues with them.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<span lang="EN-US">Personally, I would be greatly interested
in how many installations do use policy rules, and this
one in particular.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<pre><span lang="EN-US">Pavol Mederly<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">Software developer<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 10/10/2022 12:54,
Delcourt Stéphane via midPoint wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Does someone know how
to deal with this policy constraint ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">My idea is to use it
for role dependency as intended
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So I want to add
policy constraint in role B to block user receiving it if
not assigned of role A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Here’s the code sample
I’m using in role B:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <assignment><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
<policyRule><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
<name>exclude-if-no-role-a</name><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
<policyConstraints><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
<hasNoAssignment><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
<targetRef oid="role_a_oid" type="RoleType"/><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
</hasNoAssignment><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
</policyConstraints><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
<policyActions><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
<enforcement/><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
</policyActions><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
</policyRule><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
</assignment><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">But this does not
trigger any error when I try to assign role B to a user
not having role A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">What am I missing here
? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I don’t even know how
to debug this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for your help<o:p></o:p></p>
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