<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Davy,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Doh!! Obvious now that you come to explain it. Forgive me for being a bit dim-witted today.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Kev<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Apr 2020, at 09:08, Davy Priem <<a href="mailto:davy.priem@vives.be" class="">davy.priem@vives.be</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="">It’s because the date is contstructed withing the <validFrom> element, so it’s not necessary to specify it twice as a target. </div>
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<div class="">For you question concerning Administrative Status. Effective Status is automatically calculated based on Administrative Status and ValidTo/ValidFrom. Plz see <a href="https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Activation" class="">https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Activation</a>. </div>
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<div class="">Op 17 apr. 2020, om 09:50 heeft Collins, Kevin <<a href="mailto:K.J.Collins@hw.ac.uk" class="">K.J.Collins@hw.ac.uk</a>> het volgende geschreven:</div>
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Chris,</div>
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You're right. The <target>s are unnecessary! What devilish magic is this? How does it know which value is which? Does Midpoint come with its own supply of holy water or something like that to perform these miracles?</div>
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-Kev (somewhat astonished!)</div>
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>17 April 2020 08:45<br class="">
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Thanks. I'll give that a try too.</div>
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I hope that everyone is well and coping with the new working patterns that many of us have had to adopt.</div>
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The "source of truth" for user data is in a Postgresql table with start_date and end_date supplied. The columns for start_date and end_date are defined in the table as "timestamp without timezone" and take the form "yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss", (example "2020-04-17
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I'm trying to set up activation for any users coming in from this data feed so that Midpoint knows when it's time to create, activate, suspend or archive the user account. I have got the MidPoint database table connector connecting to the database and can import
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(And I haven't got a clue - yet!! - as to how to determine the administrative status from these dates. I think that it should be "undefined" to allow Midpoint to make the decision).</div>
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