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    <p>Hi Jan,</p>
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      <div dir="ltr">@Ivan Noris & @Pavol Mederly<br>
        <div>Ivan, your suggestion that I should remove the
          native-capabilities tag from the opendj resource did the trick
          (uniqueMember attribute is cleared from the group when
          deleting the entitlement). I think that I took that part from
          an xml snippet from the mailing list.</div>
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    <p>It was not just the capabilities, but also the ICF result
      handlers (see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/ICF+Issues#ICFIssues-ResultHandlers">https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/ICF+Issues#ICFIssues-ResultHandlers</a>
      - one of the trickiest ICF legacy). Anyway, native capabilities
      should be always fetched by the connector.<br>
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        <div>Together with the fact that I did not read up on that part
          in Confluence: it was a disaster in the making.</div>
        <div>My sanity has returned along with my confidence in the fact
          that midPoint is the right tool for our use-case.</div>
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    <p>Having the confidence for midPoint is always good thing and we
      are glad for that. Especially when there were issues that are now
      resolved. And especially when the resolution is by a
      configuration, not a bugfix.<br>
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    <p>Yes there could be some issue also with the documentation and
      anyone is welcome to report such issues to be solved or even
      contribute the fix(es). In parallel we are considering how to
      improve our documentation in reasonable time.</p>
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        <div>Pavol, thank you for your detailed feedback on my clumsy
          attempt at bypassing my mis-configuration with hacks :) As I
          said, I knew I was doing iffy stuff by commenting that line.
          But one does strange things when facing a seemingly
          insurmountable problem.</div>
        <div>I am greatly indebted for your help and I must say I am
          impressed with the state of your project (well documented
          Confluence, readable code, helpful community).</div>
        <div>FYI: We are seeking professional help from DAASI for the
          follow-up verification of config/usage/deployment. I wanted to
          verify the basic usage in a PoC myself to see if midPoint was
          a fit.<br>
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    <p>Good to hear!</p>
    <p>Good luck & best regards</p>
    <p>Ivan<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op di 28 jan. 2020 om 08:40
          schreef Jan Lievens <<a
            href="mailto:jan.lievens@biggerfish.be"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jan.lievens@biggerfish.be</a>>:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">So now my conclusion is that the NPE in the
            admin points to the fact that together with name and
            identifiers there should also be a shadowRef saved in the
            shadow (PostgreSQL account) repo.<br>
            We see that only the name and identifiers are saved in the
            beginning (first import task). I suppose the shadowRef is at
            that point not resolvable (perhaps the entitlements are not
            imported yet so the shadow of an entitlement is not yet
            available).<br>
            Now we also see that if we perform a null safe check on the
            NPE site our use-case works (uniqueMember is cleared of the
            LDAP group when we remove entitlement from PostgreSQL) but
            we see that the shadow of the entitlement is lingering in
            the repo (and indeed when we again add the entitlement again
            in PostgreSQL an exception is thrown saying that there are
            conflicting shadows in the import task run).<br>
            So my hunch is that the shadowRef should be saved on the
            association when possible. I see that during the
            reconciliation the shardowRef is correctly added beside the
            name and identifiers tags (but alas never saved to the
            repo).<br>
            I will pursue this line of thinking. My best guess is to
            save this shadowRef in the association someplace in the
            ShadowManager.<br>
            <br>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op ma 27 jan. 2020 om
                15:15 schreef Jan Lievens <<a
                  href="mailto:jan.lievens@biggerfish.be"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jan.lievens@biggerfish.be</a>>:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">So I figured out what the
                  NullPointerException is all about: The code at
                  line ShadowAssociationWrapperFactoryImpl.java:193
"shadowAss.add(associationValue.findReference(ShadowAssociationType.F_SHADOW_REF).getValue().clone());"
                  expects to have a shadowRef in the association which
                  it does not have (it only has name and identifiers
                  tags, like can be seen from my previous post). Now I
                  would say that this missing shadowRef needs to be
                  fixed next because when I null check this (and thus
                  this line is not performed) the
                  lingering-"uniqueMember" bug in LDAP is resolved and
                  the GUI admin does not crash with a NPE but the shadow
                  (the shadow of the entitlement that is, for which the
                  shadowRef should exist) is not cleaned up and can
                  still be seen in the repo. So when I again add the
                  entitlement in PostgreSQL and perform an import task
                  on that resource it crashes on the fact that it sees
                  conflicting shadows (no surprise there).</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op za 25 jan. 2020
                    om 15:20 schreef Jan Lievens <<a
                      href="mailto:jan.lievens@biggerfish.be"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jan.lievens@biggerfish.be</a>>:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">So I debugged this problem with the
                      lacking "association" item in the account shadow
                      of the PostgreSQL resource. So again a tl;dr for
                      the people with no time to follow my lengthy
                      explanation: the lingering uniqueMember reference
                      gets cleaned up in LDAP when I remove
                      line com.evolveum.midpoint.repo.sql.helpers.ObjectRetriever.java:557
"prismObject.removeContainer(ShadowType.F_ASSOCIATION);"
                      <div><br>
                        <div>So what I see is that the shadow that gets
                          written (xml in fullObject column) the first
                          time into the repo and it contains the
                          "association" item. <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <shadow xmlns="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3</a>"
                          xmlns:c="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3</a>"
                          xmlns:icfs="<a
href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/connector/icf-1/resource-schema-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/connector/icf-1/resource-schema-3</a>"
                          xmlns:org="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/org-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/org-3</a>"
                          xmlns:q="<a
                            href="http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/query-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/query-3</a>"
                          xmlns:ri="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/resource/instance-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/resource/instance-3</a>"
                          xmlns:t="<a
                            href="http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/types-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/types-3</a>"
                          oid="954b8cfe-5c84-4f82-946f-0196dcec92c0"
                          version="0"><br>
                                             
                          <name>810710333333</name><br>
                                              <resourceRef
                          oid="dafe0482-faef-47b7-ae08-66b150929bb7"
                          relation="org:default"
                          type="c:ResourceType"><br>
                                                  <!-- Scripted SQL
                          --><br>
                                              </resourceRef><br>
                                             
                          <objectClass>ri:AccountObjectClass</objectClass><br>
                                             
<primaryIdentifierValue>3fd83cd4-d1bb-4d7f-9a1a-12a02ed85a95</primaryIdentifierValue><br>
                                             
                          <kind>account</kind><br>
                                             
                          <exists>true</exists><br>
                                              <attributes><br>
                                                 
                          <icfs:name>810710333333</icfs:name><br>
                                                 
                          <icfs:uid>3fd83cd4-d1bb-4d7f-9a1a-12a02ed85a95</icfs:uid><br>
                                              </attributes><br>
                                              <association id="1"><br>
                                                 
                          <name>ri:ents</name><br>
                                                  <identifiers><br>
                                                     
                          <icfs:name>20001-Milieumedewerker-01</icfs:name><br>
                                                  </identifiers><br>
                                              </association><br>
                                              <activation/><br>
                                          </shadow><br>
                                          <br>
                           It is afterwards (in a following
                          reconciliation wave) that this gets
                          overwritten with a version that has no
                          association. Poof gone...<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <shadow xmlns="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3</a>"
                          xmlns:c="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3</a>"
                          xmlns:icfs="<a
href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/connector/icf-1/resource-schema-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/connector/icf-1/resource-schema-3</a>"
                          xmlns:org="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/org-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/org-3</a>"
                          xmlns:q="<a
                            href="http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/query-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/query-3</a>"
                          xmlns:ri="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/resource/instance-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/resource/instance-3</a>"
                          xmlns:t="<a
                            href="http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/types-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/types-3</a>"
                          oid="954b8cfe-5c84-4f82-946f-0196dcec92c0"
                          version="1"><br>
                                             
                          <name>810710333333</name><br>
                                              <resourceRef
                          oid="dafe0482-faef-47b7-ae08-66b150929bb7"
                          relation="org:default"
                          type="c:ResourceType"/><br>
                                             
<synchronizationTimestamp>2020-01-24T13:30:38.108Z</synchronizationTimestamp><br>
                                             
<fullSynchronizationTimestamp>2020-01-24T13:30:38.108Z</fullSynchronizationTimestamp><br>
                                             
                          <objectClass>ri:AccountObjectClass</objectClass><br>
                                             
<primaryIdentifierValue>3fd83cd4-d1bb-4d7f-9a1a-12a02ed85a95</primaryIdentifierValue><br>
                                             
                          <kind>account</kind><br>
                                             
                          <intent>webidm</intent><br>
                                             
                          <exists>true</exists><br>
                                              <attributes xmlns:xsi="<a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance</a>"
                          xmlns:c="<a
                            href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3</a>"
                          xsi:type="c:ShadowAttributesType"><br>
                                                 
                          <icfs:name>810710333333</icfs:name><br>
                                                 
                          <icfs:uid>3fd83cd4-d1bb-4d7f-9a1a-12a02ed85a95</icfs:uid><br>
                                              </attributes><br>
                                              <activation/><br>
                                          </shadow><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Immediately we see that the following
                          modifications made to the just created shadow:
                          REPLACE intent, kind, synchronizationTimestamp
                          and fullSynchronizationTimestamp. It is in
                          this replace that the "association"-part is
                          removed and written into the repo. It is on
                          position
                          com.evolveum.midpoint.repo.sql.helpers.ObjectRetriever.java:557
                          that the association from the shadow gets
                          removed in a very explicit fashion with the
                          ominous comment: "we store it because
                          provisioning now sends it to repo, but it
                          should be transient".</div>
                        <div>When we remove this line that removes the
                          association we get a fat NPE in the admin tool
                          when opening the user, but our bug is fixed
                          😎.<br>
                          But somehow I can't shake the feeling that
                          removing this line is hacky (I suppose other
                          code might also depend on this line being
                          there) and that the association should get
                          fetched from the inbound source (i.e.
                          PostgreSQL) at the right moment. But again I'm
                          too novice to really know how to configure
                          that. Something of the likes of
                          <searchStrategy>onResourceIfNeeded</searchStrategy>
                          maybe?<br>
                        </div>
                        <div>If someone could shime in here to actually
                          verify that this is a bug then I could send in
                          a pull request with the fix. I will look at
                          the NPE in de admin GUI this monday so then I
                          will know more on how unorthodox this fix is.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <br>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op vr 24 jan.
                        2020 om 10:14 schreef Jan Lievens <<a
                          href="mailto:jan.lievens@biggerfish.be"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jan.lievens@biggerfish.be</a>>:<br>
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                          <div>Before diving into the more technical
                            description of why I came to my conclusion a
                            short tl;dr for the impatient: something is
                            probably not correct in my schemaHandling
                            part of the Scripted SQL resource with
                            respect to the entitlement association. What
                            that is, I have no clue about.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>So I did a bit of code spelunking in
                            midPoint to better understand the problem.
                            Here is what I came up with:</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div> - To see what happened in the code with
                            respect to the LDAP association I put logger
                            com.evolveum.midpoint.provisioning into the
                            debug level which provides me with some fine
                            log statement when the association
                            (user->group: uniqueMember on the group)
                            is made in LDAP:</div>
                          <div>2020-01-23 08:58:22,737 [PROVISIONING]
                            [midPointScheduler_Worker-2] DEBUG
                            (com.evolveum.midpoint.provisioning.impl.ResourceObjectConverter):
                            PROVISIONING MODIFY operation on
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="resource:d0811790-6420-11e4-86b2-3c9755567874(OpenDJ)">resource:d0811790-6420-11e4-86b2-3c9755567874(OpenDJ)</a><br>
                            MODIFY object, object class Technical Role,
                            identified by:<br>
                                {<br>
                                    entryUUID:
                            88972d7b-6deb-4d94-b343-d039099d23c4<br>
                                    dn:
                            cn=jirauser,ou=groups,dc=didm,dc=be<br>
                                }<br>
                            changes: [<br>
                                PropertyModificationOperation:<br>
                                    delta:<br>
                                    attributes/uniqueMember<br>
                                        ADD:
                            uid=81071022511,ou=people,dc=didm,dc=be<br>
                                    matchingRule: {<a
href="http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/matching-rule-3%7DstringIgnoreCase"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/matching-rule-3}stringIgnoreCase</a><br>
                            ]<br>
                          </div>
                          <div> - So basically I had to find out why the
                            inverse is not happening when the
                            association is severed (when we delete the
                            entitlement in the PostgreSQL database)</div>
                          <div> - The conclusion I get from the code is
                            that this should happen in the
                            ReconciliationProcessor.reconcileProjectionAssociations
                            method. More specifically at the end of that
                            method it is decided to tolerate the
                            association or not (tolerant=false on the
                            association is a required thing after
                            all 😀).</div>
                          <div> - In this decideIfTolerateAssociation
                            method I see this beautiful call that is
                            going to solve my world of pain:</div>
                          <div>recordAssociationDelta(valueMatcher,
                            accCtx, assocDef, ModificationType.DELETE,
                            isCValue.getValue(), null, "it is not given
                            by any mapping and the association is not
                            tolerant");<br>
                          </div>
                          <div> - In my configuration this statement is
                            not evaluated because it requires that there
                            is a
                            PrismContainerValue<ShadowAssociationType>
                            provided in the arguments of this method.</div>
                          <div> - And why is there no
                            ShadowAssociationType in this case I hear
                            you ask? Well because in
method com.evolveum.midpoint.prism.impl.PrismContainerValueImpl#findItemByQName
                            it cannot find an "association" item in the
                            shadow of the PostgreSQL account (see
                            screenshot in attachment).</div>
                          <div> - And indeed when I look at that
                            specific shadow's repository object xml, I
                            see nothing that looks like an association.</div>
                          <div> - And why is there no "association" item
                            on the PostgreSQL account shadow? That I do
                            not know. Maybe somebody can put me out of
                            my misery?</div>
                          <div> - So basically I assume something is
                            fishy about my schemaHandling part of the
                            Scripted SQL resource with respect to the
                            entitlement association.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Sorry if this is somewhat too technical,
                            I realise there is a dev mailing list but I
                            wanted to add it here so that people find
                            the solution and problem in the same space.</div>
                        </div>
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                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op di 21
                            jan. 2020 om 15:50 schreef Jan Lievens <<a
                              href="mailto:jan.lievens@biggerfish.be"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jan.lievens@biggerfish.be</a>>:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Hi,
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>May I also add that I tried this
                                setup with midPoint versions 4.0.1, 4.0
                                and 3.9 all with the same result
                                (lingering uniqueMember attributes in
                                LDAP).</div>
                              <div><br>
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                                jan. 2020 om 14:47 schreef Jan Lievens
                                <<a
                                  href="mailto:jan.lievens@biggerfish.be"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jan.lievens@biggerfish.be</a>>:<br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Hi all,
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>I have reduced the complexity of
                                    my use case and made it easy to
                                    reproduce. Starting from the unix
                                    story (<a
                                      href="https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Unix+Story+Test"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Unix+Story+Test</a>)</div>
                                  <div>Now I have the following
                                    situation:</div>
                                  <div> - Sync accounts from CSV to
                                    OpenDJ (works great)</div>
                                  <div> - I have one meta-role that is
                                    assigned to a test role which
                                    results in an LDAP group (works
                                    great)</div>
                                  <div> - Then I assign this test role
                                    to a user which results in a
                                    uniqueMember attribute on the LDAP
                                    group (nice)</div>
                                  <div> - Then I unassign the test role
                                    from said user and the uniqueMember
                                    attribute on the LDAP group is not
                                    getting removed (😭)</div>
                                  <div> - The uniqueMember attribute
                                    cannot be removed even after running
                                    reconcile/recompute on accounts and
                                    entitlements</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>More succinct description to
                                    reproduce:</div>
                                  <div>- git checkout <a
                                      href="https://github.com/jalieven/midpoint-docker"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/jalieven/midpoint-docker</a><br>
                                    - cd midpoint-docker<br>
                                    - git checkout simple-ldap-group<br>
                                    - 'make restart' (starts docker with
                                    postgres/opendj/midpoint)<br>
                                    - go to admin GUI <a
                                      href="http://localhost:8080/midpoint"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://localhost:8080/midpoint</a>
                                    <br>
                                    - login 'administrator' pwd '5ecr3t'<br>
                                    - create a new role 'TestGroup' with
                                    an assignment to role 'LDAP Group
                                    Metarole'<br>
                                    [- in OpenDJ:
                                    be.didm.group.TestGroup is created]
                                    => OK (checking can be done with
                                    'make check_ldap' in root project) <br>
                                    - in admin GUI: add 'TestGroup' to
                                    'user01' assignments<br>
                                    [- in OpenDJ: the
                                    be.didm.group.TestGroup gets the
                                    attribute uniqueMember set to
                                    'uid=user01,ou=people,dc=didm,dc=be']
                                    => OK<br>
                                    - in admin GUI: remove 'TestGroup'
                                    from 'user01' assignments (minus
                                    button and SAVE)<br>
                                    [- in OpenDJ: nothing happens:
                                    uniqueMember is not removed from
                                    be.didm.group.TestGroup] => Not
                                    OK!</div>
                                  <div>- to verify this stale
                                    uniqueMember attribute: in root of
                                    project do 'make check_ldap'<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Config files can be found in
                                    demo/simple/midpoint_server/container_files/mp-home/post-initial-objects<br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>As you can see reproducing this
                                    bug/miss-config takes 5min of work.
                                    If this is a miss-configuration you
                                    might want to check because the same
                                    is happening in the unix story test.
                                    If this is a bug in midPoint all the
                                    more so to look at it. It is hard
                                    for me as a novice to say which one
                                    it is. </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>It seems to me that this is a
                                      common use-case. I have come
                                      across this issue a few times in
                                      this mailing list, none of which
                                      provide a sufficient solution:</div>
                                    <div><a
href="http://lists.evolveum.com/pipermail/midpoint/2016-April/001720.html"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.evolveum.com/pipermail/midpoint/2016-April/001720.html</a>
                                      (the
                                      'it-works-on-my-machine'-stance is
                                      kind of lame in this case and it
                                      doesn't help that the referred zip
                                      files does not resolve)<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><a
href="http://lists.evolveum.com/pipermail/midpoint/2016-November/002807.html"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.evolveum.com/pipermail/midpoint/2016-November/002807.html</a>
                                      (a lot of tolerant/strength stuff
                                      here)<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><a
href="http://lists.evolveum.com/pipermail/midpoint/2016-November/002843.html"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.evolveum.com/pipermail/midpoint/2016-November/002843.html</a>
                                      (suggests association shortcuts
                                      and multivalued schema fix in
                                      scripted sql connector, the latter
                                      of which does not apply in my
                                      described use-case)</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>The midPoint Confluence suggests
                                    also to set various packages to
                                    trace log level to debug what is
                                    going on but I must say that in so
                                    much logging I have no idea what to
                                    look for.</div>
                                  <div>When I set the
                                    projector/clockwork to debug all I
                                    see is that the remove of the
                                    association is not happening. More
                                    specifically this package on
                                    trace org.identityconnectors.framework.spi.operations
                                    points to the fact that the delete
                                    is not happening in the connector.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>May I also add that the page <a
href="https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Initial+Logging+Setup+HOWTO"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Initial+Logging+Setup+HOWTO</a> is
                                    not up to date. Setting the
                                    skipRepositoryLoggingSettings does
                                    not work. So there is currently no
                                    way to add specific loggers at start
                                    up through the logback(-extra).xml.
                                    It always gets overwritten by what
                                    is inside the repository.<br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>It appears that the
                                    skipRepositoryLoggingSettings was
                                    removed from the code some time
                                    ago. </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Kind Regards,</div>
                                  <div>Jan Lievens</div>
                                </div>
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                                    wo 15 jan. 2020 om 16:19 schreef Jan
                                    Lievens <<a
                                      href="mailto:jan.lievens@biggerfish.be"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">jan.lievens@biggerfish.be</a>>:<br>
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                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>I have a question related to
                                        inducement construction on a
                                        role toward an LDAP resource.</div>
                                      <div>I have the following
                                        situation in midPoint (see the
                                        attachment for all the xml
                                        files)</div>
                                      <div>- Accounts and Entitlements
                                        (intent: privileges) are
                                        imported from a ScriptedSQL
                                        connector.</div>
                                      <div>- These imported entitlements
                                        have multiple privileges which
                                        are created as roles with an
                                        "assignmentTargetSearch"
                                        (post-initial-objects/210-entitlement-object-template.xml)</div>
                                      <div>- I also have these
                                        privilege/roles defined with an
                                        assignment to (multiple) fixed
                                        technical roles
                                        (kind:entitlement/intent:group).</div>
                                      <div>- Lastly I would like for
                                        these technical roles (groups)
                                        and the associated accounts to
                                        get synced to LDAP in an
                                        objectToSubject fashion. I do
                                        this with inducements and
                                        construction tags in
                                        post-initial-objects/100-profiles-webidm.xml.</div>
                                      <div>- The result I get in LDAP is
                                        that accounts are synced
                                        correctly but the group names
                                        are not what I expect (I expect
                                        technical role names
                                        eg. JiraUser) but get the names
                                        of the Entitlements
                                        (intent:privileges) defined in
                                        the DB.</div>
                                      <div>- Additionally the
                                        associations are not synced (no
                                        uniqueMember refs are synced on
                                        the LDAP groups).</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Surely I am missing something
                                        here. I think this use case is
                                        quiet standard (a hierarchy of
                                        roles and only the leafs get
                                        synced to LDAP).</div>
                                      <div>I have experimented with the
                                        order of the inducement but
                                        these came out even more
                                        negative (no accounts or groups
                                        were created).</div>
                                      <div>I also have experimented with
                                        the tolerant setting on the
                                        association (since I find a lot
                                        of answers in this mailing list
                                        suggesting this) but to no
                                        avail.</div>
                                      <div>It is quiet frustrating to be
                                        so close to having this use-case
                                        implemented DB->mP->LDAP
                                        but failing in the sync to LDAP.</div>
                                      <div><br clear="all">
                                        <div>Kind regards,</div>
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