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<p>Hello Martin,</p>
<p>I am glad it works. And thank you for the explanation. :)</p>
<p>Best regards,<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Pavol Mederly
Software developer
evolveum.com
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13.11.2019 20:41, Martin wrote:<br>
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Hello Pavol,<br>
<br>
thanks for helping me there! This is the relation definition:<br>
<br>
<relations><br>
<relation><br>
<ref
xmlns:extension="whatever">extension:myRelation</ref><br>
<display><br>
<label>myRelation</label><br>
</display><br>
<category>organization</category><br>
<category>administration</category><br>
<b> <kind>member</kind></b><br>
</relation><br>
<includeDefaultRelations>true</includeDefaultRelations><br>
</relations><br>
<br>
Adding kind=member did the trick! I had experimented with
defaultFor=member but thats not what I wantend.<br>
The sample here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Relation+Configuration"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Relation+Configuration</a>
explains the relation kinds in detail but never shows how it can
be set. Maybe that can be improved.<br>
<br>
To satisfy your curiosity:<br>
<br>
The real usecase here is a Role (Allow Codesigning) with parameter
(Hostname) that gets assigned to a user. Midpoint should
automatically assign the same role to a second focal object
(computer) based on the parameter.<br>
<br>
In detail:<br>
The assignment of the "Allow Codesigning" Role to the user causes
the User to be added to an AD Group and Assigns the Computer as a
Service to the User in Midpoint<br>
The archetype of the computer object should then assign the "Allow
Codesigning" Role also to the computer - but only if it is
assigned to someone with the relation Codesigning - so that it
also gets added to the AD Group but not all existing computers.<br>
Both user and computer are then member of the AD group (which is
the requirement) and the computer will automatically be removed
from the group once no more user claims to require the computer
(based on the user-assignment-parameter)<br>
So far no custom relation would be needed. But once we add a
second usecase that assigns computers to user (e.g. main user)
they would interfere with each other.<br>
<br>
Furthermore it makes reporting easy:<br>
- Give me all machines that belong to Subordinate Users of Manager
XY and are used for codesigning (also a requirement by the
business)<br>
vs<br>
- Give me all machines where a Subordinate Users of Manager XY is
the main user (possible usecase)
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Martin Hoffmann</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.11.2019 um 19:28 schrieb Pavol
Mederly:<br>
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<p>Hello Martin,</p>
<p>how are your relations defined in the system configuration?
In particular, have you set a kind=member for myRelation?</p>
<p>[Out of curiosity, what has led you to user a custom relation
in this context? This is the first time I see such a use :-)]</p>
<p>Best regards,<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Pavol Mederly
Software developer
evolveum.com
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13.11.2019 16:49, Martin
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi there,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am trying to do an
high-order inducement:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">User ---assignment
(relation: “extension:myRelation”) ---> Role A
---assignment---> Archetype B<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In my Archetype
there is the following inducement:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<a name="_GoBack" moz-do-not-send="true"></a><span
lang="EN-US"> <inducement id="14"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> <focusMappings><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> <mapping id="15"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">
<name>Testmapping</name><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">
<authoritative>true</authoritative><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">
<strength>strong</strength><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> <source><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">
<c:path>$immediateRole/name</c:path><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> </source><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> <expression><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> <script
xmlns:xsi=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
moz-do-not-send="true">"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"</a>
xmlns:c=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"
moz-do-not-send="true">"http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"</a>
xsi:type="c:ScriptExpressionEvaluatorType"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> <code><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> return
"HELLO"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> </code><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> </script><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> </expression><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> <target><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">
<c:path>$focus/extension/rsJobFunction</c:path><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> </target><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> </mapping><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> </focusMappings><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> <order>2</order><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">
<focusType>c:UserType</focusType><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"> </inducement><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">This does work when Role A is assigned
to the User with default relation but does not work when
the relation is my custom one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">Adding an orderConstraint on
relation=extension:myRelation causes it to stop working
for the default relation, but it does not work for the
extension relation either.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">Am I missing something there or is this
a bug? Maybe someone can give me a hint </span><span
style="font-family:Wingdings" lang="EN-US">J</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<br>
Martin Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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