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Hi,<br>
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So the decision is that we are going to listen to the subscribers
and we are going to implement the mapping chaining in 3.6:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jira.evolveum.com/browse/MID-2149">https://jira.evolveum.com/browse/MID-2149</a><br>
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However, this is likely to come a bit later in the development
cycle. And there is still a small chance that this may be moved out
if the development plan slips too much.<br>
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Radovan Semancik
Software Architect
evolveum.com
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/26/2017 11:43 AM, Radovan
Semancik wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
<br>
So, this has finally happened :-) ... Please make sure you are
sitting comfortably. There is a story to tell.<br>
<br>
Long, long ago midPoint was young and most of the current
functionality was still just few lines on a drawing board. Even
at that very early stage we somehow knew that we will need some
kind of expressions to customize midpoint behavior - and
especially to compute attribute values. We have implemented some
of that functionality in early midPoint versions. It was only
much later that we have realized how complex all of that is.
That was a year or two until the right moment came. And that's
where the concept of relativity was refined and the mechanism of
mappings was born ... on one sunny autumn Saturday ... on a
whiteboard and a pile of papers in my study :-)<br>
<br>
However, even in the early beginning we have realized that there
may be problem with ordering of expression evaluation. Output of
one expression may be input to another expression. But midPoint
was young, there was a huge pile of functionality still to
implement. So we had to make sacrifices. But being responsible
developers we at least thought about it. We figured out that,
theoretically, if we know inputs and outputs of the expressions
then we can arrange them into an evaluation tree. Evaluate the
independent expressions first, the evaluate those that depend on
them and so on. The mathematical parts of our souls rejoiced at
that moment: problem solved! Theoretically. ... but of course,
it haven't get implemented at that time. Firstly, at that time
we had no practical way how to figure out inputs of the
expressions. That came only later with the mapping mechanism.
And secondly we haven't got the resources anyway.<br>
<br>
So it remained like this for years. Curiously enough midPoint
users, subscribers and sponsors seemed to prefer fancy features
instead of these little improvements. Vox populi, vox dei ....<br>
<br>
And that's where we stand today. Technically the proper ordering
of expression evaluation is perfectly feasible. Mappings have
clear definition of source and target, so it is possible to
order their evaluation properly. The code is not there, but it
can be added. And now there are (at least) two strong voices
that ask for this. So maybe this is the right time to get it
done. Please let me discuss that internally with out team. I'll
get back to you shortly.<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Radovan Semancik
Software Architect
evolveum.com
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Martin Lízner - AMI Praha a.s. <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">I wish I could help, but I just realized I
have simillar problem for which I have no immediate
solution. I have some default roles induced by user's
organization membership. But when new user is created
and automatically assigned to org. (via
assignmentTargetSearch and usertemplate), provisioning
is not completed fully (e.g. AD groups not assigned in
the resource.). Only after I do second reconcile, all is
ok.
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<div>I guess its time to buy midPoint's subscription.
But that doesnt go so fast for us.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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web: <a
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-01-24 15:19 GMT+01:00
Nicolas Rossi <span dir="ltr"><<a
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Martin, we have 2 phases on the
UserTemplate:<br>
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helvetica, sans-serif">employeeType
calculation</font></li>
<li><font color="#444444" face="arial,
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based on employeeType</font></li>
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helvetica, sans-serif">We added the </font><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><evaluationPhase></span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">beforeAss<wbr>ignments</</span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">evaluationPhase>
to the employeeType mapping but nothing
changed: the user receives the Role but
the indirect roles are not assigned
until reconcile it. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Do you
know were can I find more information
about the evaluation phases on the User
Template ? Have you seen <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://jira.evolveum.com/browse/MID-2149"
target="_blank">the issue at JIRA</a>
commented by Jason ?</span></div>
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2017 at 1:26 PM, Martin Lízner - AMI
Praha a.s. <span dir="ltr"><<a
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Lízner</span><br>
solution
architect<br>
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gsm: <a
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href="tel:+420%20737%20745%20571" value="+420737745571" target="_blank">[+420]
737 745 571</a><br>
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tel.: <a
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274 783 239</a><br>
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17:06 GMT+01:00 Nicolas
Rossi <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:nrossi@identicum.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nrossi@identicum.com">nrossi@identicum.com</a></a>></span>:<br>
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">Hi
guys, we have a User
Template with few
mappings that assigns
Roles to Users based
on their attributes.
It's a simple model
copied from <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/Evolveum/midpoint/blob/master/samples/objects/object-template-user.xml"
target="_blank">here</a>.</div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">The
User Template is
applied and the user
receives the
assignments but it is
not propagated to the
resources until I run
a reconcile process on
it. </div>
<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)"><br>
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">Is
there any way to
configure the User
Template to force a
reconcile after
running all mappings ?
Or that's the expected
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