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    <p>Hi Patrick,</p>
    <p>from what I see now:</p>
    <p>- role in midPoint can do anything, including putting accounts to
      groups, or setting attributes for accounts</p>
    <p>- in your case, I think two resources would be required: LDAP
      resource and Apache Fortress (REST) resource</p>
    <p>- roles can be configured to set either LDAP groups (as in our
      numerous samples) or any attributes required by Apache Fortress or
      both</p>
    <p>- one role can provision accounts in LDAP, Apache Fortress or
      both. It's actually an abstraction above the groups or whatever
      application uses for similar purposes</p>
    <p>Regards,</p>
    <p>Ivan<br>
    </p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/11/2016 01:36 PM, Patrick
      Brunmayr wrote:<br>
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      <p>Hi</p>
      <p>So basically i was using the wrong term with AD. I meant a
        basic directory Service like LDAP.  Its not microsoft specific!<br>
      </p>
      <p>- We have groups in our LDAP under a dn like
        ou=Groups,dc=example,dc=com. Each user references them via
        memberOf. This is quite standard :=)<br>
      </p>
      <p>- On the other hand we have an external RBAC system ( Apache
        Fortress ) which stores the role information in a multivalued<br>
          attribute ftRA on the user entry.</p>
      <p>In midpoint i can only see the term "Roles" which in many
        examples is used to build the group information in LDAP like
        here<br>
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href="https://evolveum.com/blog/simplifying-ldap-group-management-using-midpoint/">https://evolveum.com/blog/simplifying-ldap-group-management-using-midpoint</a></p>
      <p>But for me thats not the case. A role is not a group!</p>
      <p>So <br>
      </p>
      <p>- how can i use midpoint to assign groups ( retrieved from LDAP
        ) but not using midpoint roles.<br>
      </p>
      <p>- how can i use midpoint to assign roles in a special way ? My
        problem is Apache Fortress stores the role information<br>
        in a special way which can not be done with a simple ldap query.
        So whenever a role is assigned, removed i would<br>
        need to call a rest service to apply changes via Apache Fortress</p>
      <p>Thank u</p>
      <p><br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.10.2016 um 13:03 schrieb Ivan
        Noris:<br>
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        <pre wrap="">Hi Patrick,

until now I was working only with AD groups. Could you please explain
what you mean with "AD roles"? (If this is something related do MS
documentation, a link to doc would help.)

Thanks,

Ivan


On 10/11/2016 12:13 PM, Patrick Brunmayr wrote:
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          <pre wrap="">Hello

How does midpoint differ between roles and groups ? In our AD system we
have a group membership to
mimic what kind of resource ( apps ) a user has access to. On the other
way we have roles which describe
what the user is capable of doing in the application.

How can i do this with midpoint?

Thx


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