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    Hi Jason,<br>
    <br>
    now I understand the circumstances, thank you.<br>
    <br>
    I don't have a solution handy though. (I have not used such
    combination in my projects yet.) We will try to come up with
    something.<br>
    <br>
    I think that the authoritative mapping does not help here, because
    only one of the templates is executed - so the "old" value is not
    removed and user ends up with two values. So maybe the mechanisms
    how you connect the events from CSV to midPoint  would require
    slight redesign of your solution.<br>
    <br>
    Best regards and have a nice weekend.<br>
    Ivan<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/16/2015 11:13 PM, Jason Everling
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
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cite="mid:CAFkZXY5Mo_5Mc9YPC9AZh0aJsHpX881AcdLkCmrHi=Y77CbWpw@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Oh, within the resource synchronization situations,
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Ivan
          Noris <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com" target="_blank">ivan.noris@evolveum.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> .. and how midpoint
              runs the "Disabled Students Template 1" and "Enable
              Student Template 1"? (Where?)<span class="HOEnZb"><font
                  color="#888888"><br>
                  <br>
                  Ivan</font></span>
              <div>
                <div class="h5"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div>On 10/16/2015 11:04 PM, Jason Everling wrote:<br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="ltr">The user is disabled once they are
                      removed from the CSV resource, the CSV resource
                      only contains active users. A template disables
                      their account and set the OU path just like the
                      enable one which I pasted below.
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Yes, assigning an Org will cause icfs:name to
                        be modified in AD to move them into the correct
                        ou's in AD.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>If you are meaning the Org Template/Meta
                        Role, they are assigned automatically using the
                        system default org template.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>There are not any roles currently assigned to
                        a user that controls enabled/disabled. It just
                        happens automatically when they are either added
                        or removed from CSV.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>jason</div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at
                        3:58 PM, Ivan Noris <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com"
                            target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com">ivan.noris@evolveum.com</a></a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi
                            Jason,<br>
                            <br>
                            some more questions to understand.<br>
                            <br>
                            What is the "lifecycle" of the user?<br>
                            <br>
                            Assigning role will cause icfs:name
                            generation for the correct OU.<br>
                            <br>
                            Are such roles assigned manually?<br>
                            <br>
                            Is the role for "DISABLED" users also
                            assigned manually when user leaves?<br>
                            <br>
                            Has the user which we are speaking of, still
                            assigned that "DISABLED" role?<br>
                            <br>
                            Thanks,<br>
                            Ivan
                            <div>
                              <div><br>
                                <br>
                                <div>On 10/16/2015 10:47 PM, Jason
                                  Everling wrote:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                  <div dir="ltr">Ok so that makes a
                                    little more sense,
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>The meta role is used so that
                                      when a user is created in the
                                      "GUI" and is assigned an Org, they
                                      will then be created in AD in the
                                      same Org. This is that we do not
                                      have manually type out the entire
                                      OU Path.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Here is the role,</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>   <name>Metarole for
                                        Orgs</name></div>
                                      <div>   <description></div>
                                      <div>        This MetaRole will
                                        add the current assigned
                                        organization to the organization
                                        attribute.</div>
                                      <div>    </description></div>
                                      <div>   <metadata></div>
                                      <div>     
<createTimestamp>2015-02-16T13:26:01.203-06:00</createTimestamp></div>
                                      <div>      <creatorRef
                                        oid="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000002"
                                        type="c:UserType"><!--
                                        administrator
                                        --></creatorRef></div>
                                      <div>      <createChannel><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/model/channels-3#objectImport"
                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/model/channels-3#objectImport">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/model/channels-3#objectImport</a></a></createChannel></div>
                                      <div>   </metadata></div>
                                      <div>   <inducement id="1"></div>
                                      <div>      <focusMappings></div>
                                      <div>         <mapping></div>
                                      <div>            <source></div>
                                      <div>             
                                         <c:path>$immediateRole/name</c:path></div>
                                      <div>            </source></div>
                                      <div>            <target></div>
                                      <div>             
                                         <c:path>$focus/organization</c:path></div>
                                      <div>            </target></div>
                                      <div>         </mapping></div>
                                      <div>      </focusMappings></div>
                                      <div>     
                                        <order>2</order></div>
                                      <div>   </inducement></div>
                                      <div></role></div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>What would you recommend I try?</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct
                                      16, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Ivan Noris <span
                                        dir="ltr"><<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com"
                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com">ivan.noris@evolveum.com</a></a>></span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Jason,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Pavol and I are looking into
                                          the logs.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          It seems that the user has
                                          assigned organization
                                          OU=_DISABLED,OU=SHP
                                          Students,DC=TEST,DC=LOCAL, oid
                                          cce5ec38-5246-4368-9e7b-6b049e01ef4d,
                                          which sets the attribute
                                          "organization" (using the
                                          metarole).<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Additionally, the user
                                          template you posted, also sets
                                          the attribute "organization",
                                          so after processing, user has
                                          TWO values of organization
                                          attribute and this eventually
                                          fails in mapping for (AD)
                                          icfs:name.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          How is the first role assigned
                                          and why it's kept assigned..?<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Regards,<br>
                                          Ivan
                                          <div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div>On 10/16/2015 09:55
                                                PM, Jason Everling
                                                wrote:<br>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                                <div dir="ltr">But the
                                                  users do not have 2
                                                  "organizations in
                                                  their profile, they
                                                  end up with only 1,
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>doesn't the
                                                    "authoritive" flag
                                                    ensure that only one
                                                    value exists for any
                                                    multi value
                                                    attribute?</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>I attached the
                                                    template that kicks
                                                    off when a user is
                                                    added back to CSV</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>JASON</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at
                                                    2:52 PM, Jason
                                                    Everling <span
                                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jeverling@bshp.edu" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jeverling@bshp.edu">jeverling@bshp.edu</a></a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                      <div dir="ltr">So
                                                        yes, during the
                                                        re adding of the
                                                        user, a template
                                                        kicks off, which
                                                        all it does, is
                                                        add back their
                                                        original
                                                        organization
                                                        based on
                                                        costCenter,
                                                        which then
                                                        causes them to
                                                        be enabled and
                                                        moved in into
                                                        another AD
                                                        container.</div>
                                                      <div
                                                        class="gmail_extra">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Fri, Oct 16,
                                                          2015 at 2:50
                                                          PM, Ivan Noris
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com"
                                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com">ivan.noris@evolveum.com</a></a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> This is strange.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The two values
                                                          have the same
                                                          initial, so I
                                                          start to
                                                          believe that
                                                          the two values
                                                          are produced
                                                          by
                                                          "organization"
                                                          attribute.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Can you please
                                                          check if this
                                                          user has one
                                                          or two values
                                                          of
                                                          user/organization?
                                                          One seems to
                                                          be
                                                          "OU=DISABLED..."<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I.</font></span><span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          10/16/2015
                                                          09:02 PM,
                                                          Jason Everling
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Here

                                                          is the
                                                          situation,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I am
                                                          running into a
                                                          issue, if the
                                                          user in the
                                                          CSV has a
                                                          middle initial
                                                          that was not
                                                          there before
                                                          and does not
                                                          have that
                                                          value in AD
                                                          then I get an
                                                          error,<br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span>Attempt

                                                          to replace 2
                                                          values to a
                                                          single-valued
                                                          item
                                                          attributes/name;
                                                          values:
                                                          [PPV(String:cn=Charlie
                                                          K.
                                                          Brown,OU=DISABLED,OU=Students,DC=TEST,DC=LOCAL),
                                                          PPV(String:cn=Charlie


                                                          K. Brown,</span><span>OU=Dept,OU=Users,OU=Students,</span><span>DC=TEST,DC=LOCAL)]</span><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span>The
                                                          above users
                                                          original
                                                          "name" in AD
                                                          is</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>cn=Charlie
Brown,OU=Dept,OU=Users,OU=Students,DC=TEST,DC=LOCAL</span><span><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span>So
                                                          when they are
                                                          added to CSV
                                                          with a middle
                                                          initial it is
                                                          trying to
                                                          build the new
                                                          name like in
                                                          the first
                                                          example and
                                                          fails.</span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>My AD DN
                                                          code is,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>if




                                                          (additionalName

                                                          == null) {</div>
                                                          <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>return




'cn='+givenName+'
'+familyName+iterationToken+','+organization+'';</div>
                                                          <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>}
                                                          else {</div>
                                                          <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>return




'cn='+givenName+'
'+additionalName+'.
'+familyName+iterationToken+','+organization+'';</div>
                                                          <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>}</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">JASON</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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