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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello Dharmendra,<br>
      <br>
      generally speaking, the <ref> element in the inducement
      requires the namespace to be present and to be declared in order
      to function correctly. <br>
      Maybe in 3.2 we'll change this, as is discussed in <a
        href="https://jira.evolveum.com/browse/MID-2191">MID-2191</a>,
      but for 3.1 it is definitely so.<br>
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div>We have added this inducement by web-service client and at
          that point we do not have information about correct namespace
          so how can we get rid of this.</div>
        <div>The problem we have is at that point we do not know if the
          attribute is icf attribute or not so we cannot add the
          namespace. So is it necessary to have the correct namespace or
          is it a problem in midpoint?</div>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      I'm not sure I understand you fully.<br>
      <br>
      I think you can safely add the following namespace:<br>
      <br>
      Either <b>xmlns:ri=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/resource/instance-3">"http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/resource/instance-3"</a></b>
      for majority of attribute names, or<br>
      <b>xmlns:icfs=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/connector/icf-1/resource-schema-3">"http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/connector/icf-1/resource-schema-3"</a></b>
      for special names, like icfs:name, icfs:uid, icfs:groups and a few
      others, less frequently used.<br>
      <br>
      It does not matter if you create a role or its inducement via GUI,
      import objects, or via web service. In all the cases you can (and
      should) use the correct namespace.<br>
      <br>
      One note regarding undeclared namespaces (like qn43:groups without
      declaring qn43). In midPoint 3.1, these are not checked, and
      result of using them is generally unpredictable. In current
      master, we added a code that checks for such situations, and
      forbids using object with such undeclared namespaces (as described
      in MID-2191). This check can be temporarily turned off via
      Configuration->Internals configuration->Internals
      config->Tolerate undeclared prefixes...); when releasing 3.1.1
      it will be probably turned OFF by default. Maybe the role search
      in your case is failing because of this (but I'm not sure); please
      check the midPoint logs. Anyway, it is strictly necessary to use
      correctly defined namespaces in <ref> elements.<br>
      <br>
      Hope this helps,<br>
      Pavol<br>
      <br>
      PS: I'm on a vacation this week. So perhaps someone else on this
      list would be able to help you further, or I'll be back on March
      8th (or perhaps during evenings/nights, but without warranty).<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 2. 3. 2015 8:36, Dharmendra Parakh wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAJG9dDuRGp+TbBXR2ckvqRPEiRv8O4FkEVO6owWABU1HOKRjSw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Hi
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I have a situation where my role search is failing when i
          search by name/oid or type.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>As per my observation this role has an inducement in which
          there is certain attribute without namespace defined:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          40px;border:none;padding:0px">
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1"><inducement id="2"></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">      <construction></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">         <resourceRef
                  oid="ef2bc95b-76e0-48e2-86d6-3d4f02d3eaef"
                  type="ResourceType"><!-- Active Directory
                  Resource --></resourceRef></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">         <attribute></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font color="#ff0000" size="1">           
                  <ref>qn43:groups</ref></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">            <outbound></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">             
                   <strength>strong</strength></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">               <expression></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">                 
<value>cn=portal_support,ou=groups,dc=confluxsys,dc=com</value></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">               </expression></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">            </outbound></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">         </attribute></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">      </construction></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px">
            <div>
              <div><font size="1">   </inducement></font></div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Now when i added appropriate namespace it worked for me.</div>
        <div>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1"><inducement
              id="2"></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">     
              <construction></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">       
               <resourceRef
              oid="ef2bc95b-76e0-48e2-86d6-3d4f02d3eaef"
              type="ResourceType"><!-- Active Directory Resource
              --></resourceRef></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">       
               <attribute></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font color="#ff0000" size="1"> 
                        <ref </font><font color="#ff0000" size="1">xmlns:qn43="<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/connector/icf-1/resource-schema-3">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/connector/icf-1/resource-schema-3</a>"</font><span
              style="color:rgb(255,0,0);font-size:x-small">>qn43:groups</ref></span></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">           
              <outbound></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">             
               <strength>strong</strength></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">             
               <expression></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">               
               
<value>cn=portal_support,ou=groups,dc=confluxsys,dc=com</value></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">             
               </expression></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">           
              </outbound></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">       
               </attribute></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1">     
              </construction></font></blockquote>
          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font size="1"> 
               </inducement></font></blockquote>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>We have added this inducement by web-service client and at
          that point we do not have information about correct namespace
          so how can we get rid of this.</div>
        <div>The problem we have is at that point we do not know if the
          attribute is icf attribute or not so we cannot add the
          namespace. So is it necessary to have the correct namespace or
          is it a problem in midpoint?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Please provide some assistance on this.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks</div>
        <div>Dharmendra</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:57 PM,
          Dharmendra Parakh <span dir="ltr"><<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:dharmendra@confluxsys.com" target="_blank">dharmendra@confluxsys.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">Hey Pavol
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I missed that equal thing.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Thanks, that worked like a charm.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Regards</div>
              <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                  <div>Dharmendra</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                </font></span></div>
            <div class="HOEnZb">
              <div class="h5">
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:34
                    PM, Pavol Mederly <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:mederly@evolveum.com"
                        target="_blank">mederly@evolveum.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                        <div>Dharmendra,<br>
                          <br>
                          it is not supported to test references using
                          <equal> condition. You have to use
                          <ref> one. <br>
                          <br>
                          So I suggest to replace "<equal ..."
                          section in .parseSearchFilterType() call with
                          this one<span><br>
                            <br>
                            <ref><br>
                               
                            <path>assignment/targetRef</path><br>
                                <value><br>
                          </span>         <oid><b><font
                              color="#cc0000"> ... put roleOid here ...
                            </font></b></oid><span><br>
                                    <type>RoleType</type><br>
                                </value><br>
                            </ref><br>
                            <br>
                          </span> It should work. :-) If not, please let
                          me know.<br>
                          <br>
                          Best regards,<br>
                          Pavol<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div dir="ltr">HI
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I tried it but didn't work for me,
                                  I am using following code:</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>private

                                    static List<UserType>
                                    searchRoleMembers(ModelPortType
                                    modelPort, String roleOid) throws
                                    SAXException, IOException,
                                    FaultMessage, JAXBException {</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>//

                                    WARNING: in a real case make sure
                                    that the username is properly</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>//

                                    escaped before putting it in XML</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>SearchFilterType

                                    filter = ModelClientUtil</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>.parseSearchFilterType("<equal

                                    xmlns='<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/query-3"
                                      target="_blank">http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/query-3</a>'
                                    xmlns:c='<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"
                                      target="_blank">http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3</a>'
                                    >"</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>+
                                    "<path>assignment/targetRef</path>"
                                    + "<value><oid>" +
                                    roleOid + "</oid>
                                    <type>RoleType</type>
                                    </value>" + "</equal>");</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>QueryType

                                    query = new QueryType();</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>query.setFilter(filter);</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>SelectorQualifiedGetOptionsType

                                    options = new
                                    SelectorQualifiedGetOptionsType();</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Holder<ObjectListType>

                                    objectListHolder = new
                                    Holder<ObjectListType>();</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Holder<OperationResultType>

                                    resultHolder = new
                                    Holder<OperationResultType>();</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>modelPort.searchObjects(ModelClientUtil.getTypeQName(UserType.class),

                                    query, options, objectListHolder,
                                    resultHolder);</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>ObjectListType

                                    objectList = objectListHolder.value;</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>List<ObjectType>

                                    objects = objectList.getObject();</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>if

                                    (objects.isEmpty()) {</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>return

                                    null;</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>}</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>List<UserType>

                                    result = new
                                    ArrayList<>(objects.size());</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>for(ObjectType

                                    object: objects ){</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>result.add((UserType)

                                    object);</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>}</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>return

                                    result;</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>}</div>
                                  <div><span
                                      style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></div>
                                </div>
                                <div>Am i doing anything wrong?</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Thanks!</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 12,
                                  2015 at 4:36 PM, Pavol Mederly <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:mederly@evolveum.com"
                                      target="_blank">mederly@evolveum.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                    style="margin:0 0 0
                                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                    solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                      text="#000000">
                                      <div>You can easily get all users
                                        that have <b>directly</b>
                                        assigned a role - it is a search
                                        on UserType using the following
                                        criteria:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <ref><br>
                                           
                                        <path>assignment/targetRef</path><br>
                                            <value><br>
                                               
                                        <oid>00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000004</oid><br>
                                               
                                        <type>RoleType</type><br>
                                            </value><br>
                                        </ref><br>
                                        <br>
                                        (replace
                                        00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000004
                                        with the OID of your role)<br>
                                        <br>
                                        However, this does not find
                                        users that have such a role
                                        assigned indirectly (e.g. as
                                        inducement in another role).
                                        This is not currently supported.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Best regards,<br>
                                        Pavol<br>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                            <div dir="ltr">HI
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Thanks for the
                                                information, this works.</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>One more thing Our
                                                requirement is to
                                                reconcile users
                                                associated to some
                                                specific role, So is
                                                there a way to get the
                                                users associated to a
                                                role without iterating
                                                all the users.</div>
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                                              </div>
                                              <div>Thanks!</div>
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                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at
                                                3:27 PM, Pavol Mederly <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mederly@evolveum.com" target="_blank">mederly@evolveum.com</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                    text="#000000">
                                                    <div>Hello Manish,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      I've just pushed a
                                                      sample code that
                                                      demonstrates this.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Here is the java
                                                      code - actually,
                                                      it's an empty
                                                      modification with
                                                      RECONCILE option
                                                      set (see red
                                                      lines):<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <p><span><span>   
                                                          </span>private
                                                          static void
                                                          reconcileUser(ModelPortType
                                                          modelPort,
                                                          String oid)
                                                          throws
                                                          FaultMessage {</span></p>
                                                      <span> </span>
                                                      <p><span><span>       
                                                          </span>ObjectDeltaType

                                                          userDelta =
                                                          new
                                                          ObjectDeltaType();</span></p>
                                                      <p><span><span>       
                                                          </span>userDelta.setOid(oid);</span></p>
                                                      <p><span><span>       
                                                          </span>userDelta.setObjectType(ModelClientUtil.getTypeQName(UserType.class));</span></p>
                                                      <p><span><span> </span><span>      
                                                          </span>userDelta.setChangeType(ChangeTypeType.MODIFY);</span></p>
                                                      <p><span> </span></p>
                                                      <p><span><span>       
                                                          </span>ObjectDeltaListType


                                                          deltaList =
                                                          new
                                                          ObjectDeltaListType();</span></p>
                                                      <p><span><span>       
                                                          </span>deltaList.getDelta().add(userDelta);</span></p>
                                                      <p><span> </span></p>
                                                      <p><font
                                                          color="#cc0000"><span><span>       
                                                          </span>ModelExecuteOptionsType

                                                          optionsType =
                                                          new
                                                          ModelExecuteOptionsType();</span></font></p>
                                                      <font
                                                        color="#cc0000">
                                                      </font>
                                                      <p><font
                                                          color="#cc0000"><span><span>       
                                                          </span>optionsType.setReconcile(true);</span></font></p>
                                                      <font
                                                        color="#cc0000">
                                                      </font>
                                                      <p><span><span>       
                                                          </span>modelPort.executeChanges(deltaList,



                                                          optionsType);</span></p>
                                                      <p><span><span>   
                                                          </span>}</span></p>
                                                      <br>
                                                      This is how it
                                                      looks like in XML:<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <font size="-1"><soap:Body><br>
                                                               
                                                        <ns8:executeChanges
                                                        <br>
                                                                   
                                                        xmlns:ns2=<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/types-3" target="_blank">"http://prism.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/types-3"</a>
                                                        <br>
                                                                   
                                                        xmlns:ns3=<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"
                                                          target="_blank">"http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/common-3"</a>
                                                        <br>
                                                                   
                                                        xmlns:ns8=<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/model/model-3"
                                                          target="_blank">"http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/model/model-3"</a>
                                                        <br>
                                                                   
                                                        xmlns:ns9=<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/api-types-3"
                                                          target="_blank">"http://midpoint.evolveum.com/xml/ns/public/common/api-types-3"</a>><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                                   
                                                        <ns8:deltaList><br>
                                                                       
<ns9:delta><br>
                                                                           

<ns2:changeType>modify</ns2:changeType><br>
                                                                           

<ns2:objectType>ns3:UserType</ns2:objectType><br>
                                                                           

<ns2:oid>c0c010c0-d34d-b33f-f00d-11111111ec1e</ns2:oid><br>
                                                                       
</ns9:delta><br>
                                                                   
                                                        </ns8:deltaList><br>
                                                        <font
                                                          color="#cc0000">           

<ns8:options><br>
                                                                         

<ns3:reconcile>true</ns3:reconcile><br>
                                                                     
                                                          </ns8:options><br>
                                                        </font>       
                                                        </ns8:executeChanges><br>
                                                           
                                                        </soap:Body></font><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Hope this helps.<br>
                                                      Pavol
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                                                        <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 10. 2. 2015
                                                          22:40, Manish
                                                          Baid wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi,</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Using
                                                          webservice
                                                          client, can
                                                          you please
                                                          share some
                                                          pointers on
                                                          how to:
                                                          programmatically
                                                          "reconcile a
                                                          user"?</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Basically,
                                                          we are trying
                                                          to re-enforce
                                                          role-inducement
                                                          updates to
                                                          "affected"
                                                          users.<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Thanks<br>
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