<div dir="ltr">Correct! Now when this is actually in production it should change to about 1000 from 20, we normally have about 1000 active students/faculty/staff every semester. The initial deployment I do not plan on importing all accounts, some are from many many years ago. That what all the sync conditions were for,<div><br></div><div><table class="" style="width:auto" id="totals2d21"><tbody><tr><td>Linked</td>
                <td>19</td>
                <td>Unmatched</td>
                <td>14266</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="" style="width:auto" id="totals2d21"><tbody><tr><td>Disputed</td>
                <td>0</td>
                <td>Unlinked</td>
                <td>0</td>
                <td>Nothing</td>
                <td>0</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Ivan Noris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com" target="_blank">ivan.noris@evolveum.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    Jason,<br>
    <br>
    what actions took place for the reconciliation? I.e. what situations
    were configured to to apply what reaction?<br>
    <br>
    If you were only linking (unlinked->linkAccount), not creating
    new users in midPoint, I guess only about 20 users were linked and
    the rest of the accounts were just searched and skipped after
    correlation expression has been applied.<br>
    <br>
    The recon results can be displayed by clicking Configuration -
    Shadow Details and selecting the resource, kind and intent. In your
    case, kind="account" and intent is almost for sure "default". You
    will see the numbers/statistics of the accounts there.<br>
    <br>
    I'd expect about 20 linked and the rest unmatched.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    I.<div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 12/08/2014 10:32 PM, Jason Everling
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Yeah, I just did another database, our
        collaboration application, this one had almost 15000 records,
        now I am not sure if when Midpoint also has a lot of accounts,
        my testing environment only has about 20 users. Took about 9
        minutes, I am pretty sure it is a full recon, I am clicking new
        task, selecting the resource and then running it,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <table>
            <tbody>
              <tr>
                <td>Task run last started</td>
                <td>Monday, 8. Dec 2014 14:53:57</td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td>Task run last finished</td>
                <td>Monday, 8. Dec 2014 15:02:58</td>
              </tr>
            </tbody>
          </table>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <table style="padding-top:0px">
            <tbody>
              <tr>
                <td>
                  <div>1000000000000042505</div>
                </td>
                <td>
                  <div>com.evolveum.midpoint.common.operation.reconciliation.ResourceReconciliation</div>
                </td>
                <td>
                  <div>SUCCESS</div>
                </td>
                <td>
                  <div>Processed 14283 account(s), got 0 error(s)</div>
                </td>
              </tr>
            </tbody>
          </table>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Pavol
          Mederly <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mederly@evolveum.com" target="_blank">mederly@evolveum.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
              <div>Jason,<br>
                <br>
                are you sure it was really a full recon? :-) E.g. wasn't
                that a dry run in your case?<br>
                <br>
                In my case, I have a testing OpenDJ LDAP server, a local
                PostgreSQL database, and a full recon takes
                approximately 80 milliseconds per user:<br>
                <br>
                Finished resource part of object:...(Localhost OpenDJ)
                reconciliation: Processed 1004 account(s), got 0
                error(s) Average time for one object: 66.80677 ms (<b>wall
                  clock time average: 77.61056 ms</b>).<br>
                <br>
                Yours 27 minutes = 40,5 milliseconds per user seems to
                be quite impressive :)<br>
                <br>
                Best regards,<br>
                Pavol<br>
                <br>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="ltr">I did a reconcile already from that
                      last time I figured out how to do it from one of
                      the previous discussions. I just didn't know if it
                      were a standard to do a daily recon on a resource.
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>It took 27 minutes to do a full Recon, I only
                        have 6 attributes which 3 are outbound and 3 is
                        both in/out. Name, Last, Phone, Email,
                        Department, Profile (extension). This is a
                        VMware VM on my workstation also, so
                        surprisingly fast because the virtual disk is on
                        the same disk as 10 other running VMs.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I have almost 6 different resources now,
                        various types, 2 of which are this type where
                        the resource already has the accounts.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I also upgraded to 3.1 Snapshot, just so I am
                        creating all the objects on the latest version.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div> </div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at
                        1:27 PM, Ivan Noris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com" target="_blank">ivan.noris@evolveum.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi
                            Jason,<br>
                            <br>
                            40.000 accounts is not an issue itself. Just
                            be adwised that performance strongly depends
                            not only the number of users, but also on
                            configuration of mappings, logging, tracing
                            etc. In other words, linking the account is
                            one thing, provisioning changes during the
                            recon takes more time.<br>
                            <br>
                            Anyway we appreciate any information about
                            the performance in your case when it's
                            finished.<br>
                            <br>
                            And don't forget to run the dry-run recon
                            first to be sure about your correlation
                            rules.<br>
                            <br>
                            Thanks,<br>
                            Ivan
                            <div>
                              <div><br>
                                <br>
                                <div>On 12/08/2014 06:45 PM, Jason
                                  Everling wrote:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                  <div dir="ltr">Ok thanks, that is what
                                    I figured so I just wanted to make
                                    sure that was the case. I am going
                                    to remove that configuration, it
                                    should never create anyways, users
                                    will always be listed on that
                                    resource first way before midpoint
                                    would ever even create the midpoint
                                    user account.
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I could also just leave that
                                      and run Reconcile on the resource
                                      nightly, it has 40,000 objects,
                                      that should not be an issue right?<br>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>JASON</div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec
                                      8, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Ivan Noris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com" target="_blank">ivan.noris@evolveum.com</a>></span>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Jason,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          as the error states, and based
                                          on what you've written earlier
                                          about disabling creates, it's
                                          because the create capability
                                          is disabled (deliberately).
                                          midPoint tries to create (add)
                                          account and the decision that
                                          it should be converted to an
                                          update comes just after the
                                          collision is detected.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              I.</font></span>
                                          <div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div>On 12/08/2014 06:26
                                                PM, Jason Everling
                                                wrote:<br>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                                <div dir="ltr">I figured
                                                  that this was the case
                                                  and I read on the
                                                  wiki..
                                                  <div><br>
                                                    <div>"<span style="font-size:13px">Technically,


                                                        when midPoint
                                                        user is assigned
                                                        a role that
                                                        should provision
                                                        account on
                                                        target system
                                                        and the account
                                                        already exists
                                                        (= can be
                                                        correlated), it
                                                        will be updated.
                                                        But the decision
                                                        is made upon the
                                                        provisioning
                                                        request."</span></div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><span style="font-size:13px"><br>
                                                    </span></div>
                                                  <div><span style="font-size:13px">But

                                                      it does not work,
                                                      it errors out.
                                                      Maybe because my
                                                      resource has
                                                      create and delete
                                                      disabled? Midpoint
                                                      will never create
                                                      or delete accounts
                                                      in this resource.</span></div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">
                                                      </span><cap:create></div>
                                                    <div>               
                                                         
                                                      <cap:enabled>false</cap:enabled></div>
                                                    <div>               
</cap:create></div>
                                                    <div>               
                                                      <cap:delete></div>
                                                    <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">
                                                      </span><cap:enabled>false</cap:enabled></div>
                                                    <div>               
</cap:delete></div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Starting error,</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>com.evolveum.midpoint.util.exception.SystemException:



                                                    com.evolveum.midpoint.util.exception.SystemException:



                                                    java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException:


                                                    Resource does not
                                                    support 'create'
                                                    operation<br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>This is when I
                                                    have a role that has
                                                    an inducement for
                                                    this resource which
                                                    I would have thought
                                                    would just link
                                                    since it already
                                                    exists, the
                                                    correlation is
                                                    employeeNumber like
                                                    all of my other
                                                    resources.</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>JASON</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at
                                                    10:52 AM, Ivan Noris
                                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivan.noris@evolveum.com" target="_blank">ivan.noris@evolveum.com</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                                                        Hi Jason,<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        in general, the
                                                        deployment is as
                                                        follows:<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        1.
                                                        import/reconcile
                                                        from source
                                                        system(s) to
                                                        create
                                                        identities
                                                        (users) in
                                                        midPoint. This
                                                        may also create
                                                        additional
                                                        accounts in
                                                        other systems
                                                        (i.e. that were
                                                        not provisioned
                                                        before).<br>
                                                        2. create
                                                        reconciliation
                                                        tasks for all
                                                        other systems,
                                                        where the
                                                        accounts already
                                                        exists and
                                                        should be linked
                                                        to midpoint
                                                        identities.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Based on the
                                                        mappings in your
                                                        resources, the
                                                        reconciliations
                                                        may modify the
                                                        data on the
                                                        reconciled
                                                        resources
                                                        (outbound
                                                        mappings).<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Technically,
                                                        when midPoint
                                                        user is assigned
                                                        a role that
                                                        should provision
                                                        account on
                                                        target system
                                                        and the account
                                                        already exists
                                                        (= can be
                                                        correlated), it
                                                        will be updated.
                                                        But the decision
                                                        is made upon the
                                                        provisioning
                                                        request.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        So I'd recommend
                                                        to setup the
                                                        reconciliation
                                                        tasks, and start
                                                        them first with
                                                        the "dry-run"
                                                        flag to see how
                                                        many accounts
                                                        can be
                                                        correlated to
                                                        midPoint users.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Regards,<br>
                                                        Ivan
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          12/08/2014
                                                          04:51 PM,
                                                          Jason Everling
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">So
                                                          here is the
                                                          scenario,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>There is
                                                          a DBTable
                                                          resource that
                                                          already has
                                                          all the
                                                          accounts,
                                                          midpoint will
                                                          not create or
                                                          delete from
                                                          this resource.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The user
                                                          does not exist
                                                          yet in
                                                          Midpoint, The
                                                          users are
                                                          created in
                                                          midpoint using
                                                          another
                                                          DBTable
                                                          resource.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>How can I
                                                          link the newly
                                                          created user
                                                          in Midpoint to
                                                          their account
                                                          in the other
                                                          resource,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I can do
                                                          this by
                                                          running a
                                                          reconcile task
                                                          on the
                                                          resource but
                                                          is there any
                                                          other way to
                                                          link users to
                                                          accounts on
                                                          other
                                                          resources
                                                          since they
                                                          already exist
                                                          without having
                                                          to run
                                                          reconcile on
                                                          the resource
                                                          everytime?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks,</div>
                                                          <div>JASON</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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