[midPoint] Problem deprovisioning

Andrea Picconi andrea.picconi at innovery.net
Wed Oct 21 18:15:35 CEST 2020 

Hi Richard,

thank you for your help. A couple of question about your .xml:

I think that in the first part you are providing to the application the attributes that needs, right?
F_EXTENSION refers to the fact that they are extended attributes, but if instead they were “normal” attributes (the base attributes of Midpoint) what can I use?

In the second part (I apologize but I’m not familiar with coding ecc.), how the object query works? Which steps perform? Why I see only two attributes inside the <greater> tag?

Thank you for your time and help!

Andrea

From: midPoint <midpoint-bounces at lists.evolveum.com> On Behalf Of Richard Frovarp via midPoint
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [midPoint] Problem deprovisioning

I was able to find a reasonable work around for my user population. I have a bulk task that runs every day. One feature that would be nice is this functionality in the query options that I use all of the time in our legacy system in direct SQL

where pk not in (select pk from other_table where user has some sort of attribute)

Since I can't figure out how to do that in this query syntax, have a slight work around. I have a bulk task that runs on schedule. It queries for everyone that has one of the attributes I want to blank out. It then iterates through each of those users to see if they have a shadow in the resource that created those attributes. If they don't, it blanks the attributes out. Attached is one such task. For anyone wondering, I am supporting two different institutions in midPoint, hence the need for custom schema extension for attributes in midPoint already, like title. Plus I'm higher education, so people can be in multiple departments, hence the "primary". This takes just over 3 minutes on just under 6k people. And we really haven't taken any time to tune the performance of our environment other than making sure midPoint has plenty of memory assigned to it.

There's also probably a way to collapse this down to be a bit more efficient, but this is efficient enough for us at this moment. Note my method for checking if the user has a shadow in the specified resource. I was doing bad things previously where I iterated over all shadows the user had, and that wasn't good. So only hunt for the one you want.

On Wed, 2020-10-21 at 16:34 +0200, Pavol Mederly via midPoint wrote:

Hello,

as far as I know, this seemingly "innocent" scenario is surprisingly not directly supported by midPoint. Richard Frovarp asked about it here in July. Just look for "How to blank out user properties?" thread.

The technical reason why the data cannot be cleaned up by the same mapping that provides them is the fact that the inbound mapping is no longer applied when the account is gone.

So a workaround has to be conceived. Some of these workarounds are discussed in the mentioned thread. (What comes to my mind, though, is to map data from the resource to a set of auxiliary user properties, from where they are propagated to the "main" properties - Titolo, Matricola, ... - under condition of hasLinkedAccount for the resource.)

Best regards,

Pavol Mederly

Software developer

evolveum.com


On 21/10/2020 15:43, Andrea Picconi via midPoint wrote:
Hi Petr,

I mean that the field (or fields) must be blank.
With the account still linked, the fields are filled (example here)

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but if I unlink the account, I expect midpoint to deprovision and remove the attributes of that account (here the same with what I expect)

[cid:image002.jpg at 01D6A7D3.C3115780]

Thanks



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Subject: Re: [midPoint] Problem deprovisioning

Please elaborate more on what means "delete attributes" :)

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st 21. 10. 2020 v 15:24 odesílatel Andrea Picconi via midPoint <midpoint at lists.evolveum.com<mailto:midpoint at lists.evolveum.com>> napsal:

Hello everyone,

I have a problem while unlinking an account from a user: what happens is that the unlink process correctly removes the account inside the Projections tab , but it doesn’t deprovision the attributes that are mapped within that account.

What could cause this unexpected behaviour? And how do i get all these attributes to be deleted from Midpoint ?

Regards,
Andrea Picconi
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