[midPoint] - SciptedSQL connector misshandling inherited roles deletion

Radovan Semancik radovan.semancik at evolveum.com
Sun Nov 20 16:44:33 CET 2016


Hi,

There is no update operation in the log. Therefor midPoint is not 
invoking the group membership removal at all. I'm not sure what exactly 
happens here. Your configuration seems to be OK at the first sight and I 
would tell that your setup should work. Therefore this may be a midPoint 
bug. I will try to reproduce similar situation in midPoint tests. I'll 
let you know how it went.

-- 
Radovan Semancik
Software Architect
evolveum.com



On 11/16/2016 01:49 PM, Nicolas Rossi wrote:
> Hi Radovan, here is the log of the operation as you suggested. At the 
> beginning the "AD-SuperRole" had 3 inducements to roles (with 
> MetaRole): AD-Group3, AD-Group4 and AD-Group5. The user ltroncoso has 
> this AD-SuperRole and he has 3 groups assigned on AD. Then we removed 
> the AD-Group3 from the AD-SuperRole and reconciled the User from the 
> Admin-GUI but he still has the groupMembership on AD to Group3.
>
> Attached is the AD-SuperRole, the AD_GROUP-ENTITLEMENT (MetaRole), the 
> AD-Group3 and the User's xml.
>
> Do you need any additional information ?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Ing Nicolás Rossi
> Identicum S.A.
> Jorge Newbery 3226
> Tel: +54 (11) 4552-3050
> www.identicum.com <http://www.identicum.com>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Radovan Semancik 
> <radovan.semancik at evolveum.com <mailto:radovan.semancik at evolveum.com>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     This is a really interesting case. Initially I was suspecting a
>     problem in the scripted SQL connector. We do not use these
>     scripted connectors much as the configurations are very difficult
>     to maintain. With the many possible uses of the scripted
>     connectors these are likely to be a cause of problems. But if that
>     issue affects AD/LDAP connector then it may indicate midPoint issue.
>
>     Just to provide complete information: some time ago I have written
>     a guide how to systematically diagnose issues like these. Here it is:
>
>     https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Troubleshooting+Mappings
>     <https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Troubleshooting+Mappings>
>
>     However, to cut it short, first interesting thing would be to see
>     what operation midPoint sends to the connector. Please enable the
>     ConnId operation logging by setting following logger:
>
>     org.identityconnectors.framework: TRACE
>
>     Then re-try the operation (example of the message that you are
>     looking for is in the guide). This should give us information
>     whether the problem is that midPoint is sending wrong operation to
>     connector or whether the connector is doing wrong thing. Then we
>     will know where to focus further search for the problem.
>
>     -- 
>     Radovan Semancik
>     Software Architect
>     evolveum.com <http://evolveum.com>
>
>     On 11/14/2016 04:11 PM, Nicolas Rossi wrote:
>>     Hi guys, I'd like to add more information to this issue. We are
>>     also facing the same issue with the AD-Ldap driver when a Role
>>     loses an inducement to another Role. After reconcile the user the
>>     group membership is not removed.
>>     I've added the <tolerant>false</tolerant> flag to the Meta Role
>>     as Ivan said but there was no change.
>>     Regards,
>>     Ing Nicolás Rossi Identicum S.A. Jorge Newbery 3226 Tel: +54
>>     (11) 4552-3050 www.identicum.com <http://www.identicum.com>
>>     On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Nicolas Rossi
>>     <nrossi at identicum.com <mailto:nrossi at identicum.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Ivan / Radovan
>>         I guess there is a problem in the ScriptedSQL driver (not the
>>         scripts) when an inducement is unassigned from a Role because
>>         we are facing the same issue in two different situations:
>>
>>          1. When a technical role with inducements to entitlements is
>>             unassigned from user the script does not receive the
>>             action REMOVE_ATTRIBUTE_VALUE
>>          2. When a technical role (with MetaRole) is unassigned from
>>             a functional role assigned to user when recompute the
>>             user the script does not receive the action
>>             REMOVE_ATTRIBUTE_VALUE
>>
>>         Both situations are working when you assign the inducements.
>>         I have an isolated example here
>>         <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9319179/ScriptedSQLTest.zip>.
>>         Best regards,
>>         Ing Nicolás RossiIdenticum S.A. Jorge Newbery 3226 Tel: +54
>>         (11) 4552-3050 www.identicum.com <http://www.identicum.com>
>>         On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Rodrigo Yanis
>>         <ryanis at identicum.com <mailto:ryanis at identicum.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Ivan,
>>             Just tried configuring the meta-role just like that.
>>             Unfortunately no progress. We'll continue analyzing this
>>             and keep you posted if we find anything.
>>             Thanks a lot.
>>             Regards,
>>             *Rodrigo Yanis.* Identicum S.A. Jorge Newbery 3226 Tel:
>>             +54 (11) 4824-9971ryanis at identicum.com
>>             <mailto:ryanis at identicum.com> www.identicum.com
>>             <http://www.identicum.com/>
>>             2016-11-11 2:46 GMT-05:00 Ivan Noris
>>             <ivan.noris at evolveum.com <mailto:ivan.noris at evolveum.com>>:
>>
>>                 Hi Rodrigo,
>>
>>                 I meant this:
>>
>>                 ...
>>
>>                     <inducement>         <construction>
>>                                 <resourceRef
>>                 oid="00000000-dc00-dc00-0001-000000000021"
>>                 type="c:ResourceType"/><!-- Portal intranet
>>                 --><kind>account</kind> <intent>default</intent>
>>                         <association> <ref>ri:wsEntitlements</ref>
>>                             <outbound>
>>                 *<strength>strong</strength>***               
>>                 <source>                     ...                
>>                 </source>                 <expression>
>>                                 ...
>>
>>                 But I think your problem should be resolved by
>>                 tolerance (set to false) - strong mapping strength is
>>                 to allow midPoint to enforce the group assignment
>>                 when reconciling. Still I don't have any other idea.
>>                 I hope that's not a problem with that specific
>>                 connector because I wouldn't be able help with Java.
>>
>>                 Best regards,
>>
>>                 IVan
>>
>>                 On 11/10/2016 09:36 PM, Rodrigo Yanis wrote:
>>>                 Ivan,
>>>                 I've compared your XML to my association attribute's
>>>                 deffinition on the resource and it looks the same.
>>>                 Can you please explain further what you mean by
>>>                 defining strength on the role itself? We've got a
>>>                 Meta-role -> Application role -> High level role
>>>                 architecture going (I believe it's just the same as
>>>                 yours except for the meta-role), and the group
>>>                 association is defined on the meta-role. Do you mean
>>>                 we should somehow define strength there? because it
>>>                 isn't explicitly set.
>>>                 This is the inducement for the group association on
>>>                 the meta-role definition:
>>>                 <inducement id="2">       <construction>        
>>>                  <resourceRef
>>>                 oid="00000000-0000-1de4-0002-000000000003"
>>>                 type="c:ResourceType"><!-- BANNER_USUARIOS
>>>                 --></resourceRef>  <kind>account</kind>
>>>                  <intent>default</intent>          <association>
>>>                 <c:ref>ri:GroupObjectClass</c:ref>            
>>>                 <outbound>  <expression> <associationFromLink>
>>>                  <projectionDiscriminator> <kind>entitlement</kind>
>>>                 <intent>default</intent>  </projectionDiscriminator>
>>>                 </associationFromLink>  </expression> </outbound>
>>>                  </association>       </construction>
>>>                 <order>2</order>    </inducement>
>>>                 Don't mind me if I sound a bit confused.
>>>                 Thanks for your help.
>>>                 *Rodrigo Yanis.* Identicum S.A. Jorge Newbery 3226
>>>                 Tel: +54 (11) 4824-9971ryanis at identicum.com
>>>                 <mailto:ryanis at identicum.com> www.identicum.com
>>>                 <http://www.identicum.com/>
>>>                 2016-11-10 13:51 GMT-05:00 Ivan Noris
>>>                 <ivan.noris at evolveum.com
>>>                 <mailto:ivan.noris at evolveum.com>>:
>>>
>>>                     Hi Rodrigo,
>>>
>>>                     unfortunately no other idea yet. I was running
>>>                     recompute ca. two weeks ago to remove some
>>>                     application groups that were not added by
>>>                     midPoint, the goal was to have association
>>>                     configuration with tolerant=false and it worked
>>>                     (this was custom connector, not ScriptedSQL):
>>>
>>>                     <association> <ref>ri:wsEntitlements</ref>
>>>                     <tolerant>false</tolerant>
>>>                     <matchingRule>mr:stringIgnoreCase</matchingRule>
>>>                     <kind>entitlement</kind>
>>>                     <intent>ws-entitlement</intent>
>>>                     <direction>objectToSubject</direction>
>>>                     <associationAttribute>ri:accountId</associationAttribute>
>>>                     <valueAttribute>icfs:uid</valueAttribute>
>>>                     </association>
>>>
>>>                     In all roles where association is used,
>>>                     <strength>strong</strength> is used as well (but
>>>                     the tolerant=false is a must). The recompute
>>>                     then worked as supposed and removed all
>>>                     non-midpoint groups from the accounts. The
>>>                     accounts were constructed by hierarchical roles
>>>                     (User - assign - Business role - inducement -
>>>                     Application role) and the association was in the
>>>                     Application role.
>>>
>>>                     Best regards,
>>>
>>>                     Ivan
>>>
>>>                     On 11/10/2016 06:21 PM, Rodrigo Yanis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                     Hello Ivan, thanks for you response.
>>>>
>>>>                     Unfortunatelly this didn't work. All our
>>>>                     association attributes are set to
>>>>                     tolerance=false by default.
>>>>
>>>>                     Strange thing is, this only happens when
>>>>                     reconciling on already assigned high level
>>>>                     roles, not on assignment time.
>>>>
>>>>                     Any other suggestion? Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>>                     *Rodrigo Yanis.* Identicum S.A. Jorge Newbery
>>>>                     3226 Tel: +54 (11)
>>>>                     4824-9971ryanis at identicum.com
>>>>                     <mailto:ryanis at identicum.com> www.identicum.com
>>>>                     <http://www.identicum.com/>
>>>>                     2016-11-10 9:48 GMT-05:00 Ivan Noris
>>>>                     <ivan.noris at evolveum.com
>>>>                     <mailto:ivan.noris at evolveum.com>>:
>>>>
>>>>                         Hi Rodrigo,
>>>>
>>>>                         maybe <tolerant>false</tolerant> for
>>>>                         association or your group attribute (if not
>>>>                         using associations) could help...
>>>>
>>>>                         Ivan
>>>>
>>>>                         On 11/10/2016 03:33 PM, Rodrigo Yanis wrote:
>>>>>                         Hello everyone,
>>>>>                         We're having issues with our ScriptedSQL
>>>>>                         connector misshandling group membership
>>>>>                         removals when said memberships come from
>>>>>                         roles that are inherited from a higher
>>>>>                         level role, that is assigned to the user.
>>>>>                         When we remove the database role (the one
>>>>>                         that is linked to the resource's
>>>>>                         meta-role, and represents a database
>>>>>                         group) from the higher level role, and
>>>>>                         perform a reconciliation on the user, this
>>>>>                         does not remove the group membership of
>>>>>                         this user in the database. This only
>>>>>                         happens if the database role is assigned
>>>>>                         directly to the user, and then removed.
>>>>>                         We've also tried with a recompute task on
>>>>>                         the user, still with no luck.
>>>>>                         Since our role hierarchy does not support
>>>>>                         this last option, we must find a way
>>>>>                         (either through a task or directly) to
>>>>>                         remove memberships to roles that are no
>>>>>                         longer induced into the high level role.
>>>>>                         Do you have an idea on how to proceed?
>>>>>                         Thanks for your help
>>>>>                         *Rodrigo Yanis.* Identicum S.A. Jorge
>>>>>                         Newbery 3226 Tel: +54 (11)
>>>>>                         4824-9971ryanis at identicum.com
>>>>>                         <mailto:ryanis at identicum.com>
>>>>>                         www.identicum.com <http://www.identicum.com/>
>>>>>
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>>>>                         -- 
>>>>                         Ivan Noris
>>>>                         Senior Identity Engineer
>>>>                         evolveum.com <http://evolveum.com>
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>>>                     Senior Identity Engineer
>>>                     evolveum.com <http://evolveum.com>
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>>                 Senior Identity Engineer
>>                 evolveum.com <http://evolveum.com>
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